Sunday, February 7, 2010

Is the Model r-15 vtr predator carbine cs strong enough for deer hunting?

is the new remington Model r-15 vtr predator carbine cs strong enough to drop a deer nicely, i know it was made for predators like bobcats and cyotes but would it be good enough for deer hunting?Is the Model r-15 vtr predator carbine cs strong enough for deer hunting?
Your question should be -- Is the .223 cartridge strong enought for deer.... Some folks are going to argue here that .223 is good for deer but in reality it is to light of a cartridge. In some states its not legal to use a .223 on deer.... The lightest adequate deer cartridge is a .243.... Of course the best cartridge for deer is actualy .270....... If you like the AR15 platform for hunting then consider the DPMS. They have AR15 rifles chambered in .243, .260, 300SAUM, .308, etc, etc....... I dont know if you have purchased the Remington VTR yet but if you havent then be sure to check out the offerings from DPMS, Bushmaster, Rock River Arms, Olympic Arms and others...... See the below links.....


If you want to hunt deer with an AR15 there is another choice you might want to consider. An AR15 chambered in 7.62X39MM... With soft point ammunition this cartridge/rifle combination would be excellent for deer to 150 yards... The 7.62X39MM of course is not a long range cartridge but has similar ballistics to the old Winchester 30/30 ammo which has taken more deer than any other cartridge on the planet..... When your not hunting the ammunition for target practice is cheap cheap cheap......Is the Model r-15 vtr predator carbine cs strong enough for deer hunting?
That rifle is in 204 Ruger. I have taken deer with 223 Remington and that is probably the lightest possible. The 204 is too light to give a clean kill. Some states have restrictions on the minium caliber - some are just 'centerifre' while other say 22 and no less, still others it must be greater than a 22. Check your state regs.





Bottom line - I am 100% you are not going to be very happy hunting with this caliber.
the r-15 is chambered in either .204 ruger or .223, both of these cartridges are meant to be used for varmints.. coyotes ect... and you will find the debate whether or not .223 is a suitable deer round one of the ones brought up the most around here. there have been plenty of people who have used .223 and dropped many deer, but shot placement is key, and even that wont guarentee a clean drop. not to mention many area have regulations on the size of the round used to kill deer to ensure a humane death. So in general, no it isnt a very good deer cartridge. if you really want to hunt with an ar-15, there are loads of other chambering available to use, .308, 458 socom, .450, 6.5 grendel, 6.8 spc just to name a few





as far as the gun itself goes, i've heard great things about it.. it already had a free floating barrel, and even though it has remingtons name on it.. it's actually assembled by bushmaster (they are sister companies)
You're going to be trying to track a lot of blood trails with that if you use the 204. The 223, like Glacier says, is really the smallest you want to use on deer. The 204 is more of a varmint load.
No. The .223 and .204 rifle cartridges are too light for deer. You need something in at least a .243 caliber to humanely hunt and kill deer.
People who say you cant kill deer with small calibers either havnt done much hunting or are just bad shots. Place the shot correctly and you can drop a deer with a .22 or a .17

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