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BillWeeding spike deer from the herd?
that's completely false. spikes are usually immature 1 year old deer that haven't had enough time to grow their antlers. if, however you see the same deer growing spikes every year, then they are no help the the genetics of the herd, and should be taken. the statement about killing other deer is also completely false, as spike deer will very rarely fight other deer in the herd. buckmaster's TV show talked about this the other day. killing a spike yearling does no good for the herd and can actually be detrimental if the deer actually has good antler genetics. let him live and if you see him next year and you are positive it is the same buck spiked again then it would be advisable to take himWeeding spike deer from the herd?
Not true. The new research is finding that spikes can grow into large bucks. I have noticed a lot more spikes on my land in the past couple of years. I have also noticed more bigger bucks. I can only assume the spikes turn into those big bucks, because I haven't noticed many inferior, mature deer. I am not sure why we have so many spikes; maybe it is the food plots we put in causing better nutrition. I have noticed a decline in the amount of button bucks as well. I am sure it all ties in together.
Spikes do not kill does.
I would let them walk and see if they reach their true potential.
Spike deer can be good or bad for the herd depending on their age.
If you are culling a spike that is 2 1/2 or 3 1/2 years old, then it is certain that is all he will ever be.
The reason owners want them culled from the herd is pretty obvious. They represent inferior genes. Usually brought about by in breeding and other issue in the herd.
A spike buck will also compete for the does just like a trophy buck. So the idea is that if you have a large number of ';inferior'; bucks and you cull them the ';management'; bucks will breed more successfully with the does resulting in a ';higher'; quality herd.
So, basically reducing the number of spikes helps correct the inbreeding and other inferior breeding issues in the herd. At the same time it ensures that the higher quality bucks get a better chance at reproducing their own kind.
The trick (I am told by a state bioligist for the State of Texas) is making sure your ';spike'; is old enough to really be a ';spike'; and not just an under- developed young buck that hasn't bloomed yet.
For this reason we give our spikes a couple of seasons on our property to make sure they really are inferior. After that................they're venison;)
False, usually the reason the buck has spike antlers because they didn't get enough to eat that year, next year he'll probably be a 5-6 pointer if he's lucky, if unlucky, a 4 pointer.
they don't hurt other deer with their antlers, because their not that stupid and first years usually don't fight other deer until they have at least 4 points, because the way a buck wins a fight is by pushing the other buck around and scaring him off, not killing him, and spikes are no good for fighting like this.
but these deer are as good to the herd as any other deer, except the old and injured ones, let the spikes get bigger and become 10+ pointers, even though they taste sooooooo good lol.
this is absolutely false. Many spikes are just young bucks, probably born late in the spring who are just a little behind in antler growth. A buck need to be at least 3 1/2 years old before antler potential can be even guessed at. If however you see an obviously mature buck that is just a spike, he definitely does need to be legally eliminated from your herd
Maybe. Mississippi encouraged culling spikes I think in the eighties, but some guys at Mississippi State fed some spikes in captivity, and they turned into nice eight- and ten-point deer after a couple of years. There's probably some genetic component, but there's also a strong environmental component, too.
They're youngsters, some fawns and the rest yearlings, and hardly a danger either in size, capability, or temperament, to cause damage. Somebody's pulling your leg on that part.
thats a fifty fifty deal over last 8 years watched in pasture and filmed twins, of old doe that stayed on place by house both were late fawns 1 inch burrs 2nd year small forky and none to see, they stayed around together , ones a nice 18 inch heavy ten typical 11-12 tines dropping by 2-3 each tine down to 6-7 inch deep crayfish type pincher shaped end that almost touch above nose nice buck, the other is bigger bodied deer but slick headed his antler growth is at hair level about as wide and thick as your finger tip mashed into hair unnoticable at ten feet always called as doe by visitors, odd part is when there will be 7-8 bucks come around chasing the does the burr head usually ends up pretty succesfull over the years instead of the usuall shovin matches he stands and battles with feet and other bucks accomidate, due to larger size and temperment,generaly does well, the fawns are usually does but he has dropped several that looked real nice before they moved off
ive heard the same thing, they are genetically inferior from a trophy standpoint and most landowners that are trying to build a trophy deer herd will let the spikes be harvested.
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